Ria Stone
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Post by Ria Stone on Aug 9, 2017 12:20:17 GMT -8
So, Happy Booklovers Day!!!!
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Post by Ria Stone on Aug 9, 2017 12:21:44 GMT -8
P.S. I made a thread!!!!
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Post by Ted on Aug 9, 2017 12:48:09 GMT -8
Booklovers day? Why am I always the last to know? I just finished celebrating BC Day, a provincial holiday, which extends for a long weekend.
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Post by djmills on Aug 9, 2017 16:26:17 GMT -8
I love books every day. :-)
And I celebrate every day, because I wake up. :-)
And can remember what happened the previous few days. :-)
And I get to play at writing stories, editing, formatting and publishing those stories (but not all in the one day).
So, I second the wish for Happy Booklovers Day! :-)
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Post by Ria Stone on Aug 10, 2017 6:56:52 GMT -8
I love books every day. :-) And I celebrate every day, because I wake up. :-) And can remember what happened the previous few days. :-) And I get to play at writing stories, editing, formatting and publishing those stories (but not all in the one day). So, I second the wish for Happy Booklovers Day! :-) DJ: just went to your website, assume Diane Cornwell is a pen name. Your blog/website is fantastic. Plus, your book covers are amazing. Did you do the artwork? How impressive, a series and a boxed set and so much more. |
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Post by djmills on Aug 10, 2017 9:57:48 GMT -8
Hi Ria, thanks. Yes, Diane J Cornwell is a pen name, and a family name. DJMills is my married name and I use it for non fiction (computer qualification in my married name). Yes, I do artwork. I got qualified as a cartoonist/illustrator a long time ago, before computer programs for art. :-) Since computers, I have been practicing creating art, colouring and special effects on the computer. All fun and games! However, on occasion, I still do oil and watercolour paintings the old fashioned way using brushes. :-)
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Post by chelsfield on Aug 10, 2017 23:15:28 GMT -8
I wonder what one does exactly to celebrate book lover's day. Hmmm...maybe read a book? In that case every day is book lover's day for me!
DJ, would you consider your covers art or graphics? I know someone who tussles with art galleries to get his work displayed and is turned away because his work is computer-generated (he works from photos, greying, then re-coloring, cutting and pasting from other photos...)
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Post by djmills on Aug 11, 2017 19:09:06 GMT -8
I wonder what one does exactly to celebrate book lover's day. Hmmm...maybe read a book? In that case every day is book lover's day for me! DJ, would you consider your covers art or graphics? I know someone who tussles with art galleries to get his work displayed and is turned away because his work is computer-generated (he works from photos, greying, then re-coloring, cutting and pasting from other photos...) I call it art. It does not matter whether anyone uses traditional or digital tools to get the end result of an image/painting. :-) I also know of people what have whole gallery viewings of photos, whether manipulated or not, on display for weeks at a time. And did not know that a digitally altered photo could be excluded from galleries. I guess the digital artist you mentioned is similar to a literary author (only published one book) who turned up her nose when someone mentioned I wrote genre novels as well as non fiction. Her first question was who was my publisher. I smiled sweetly and said my publisher was Tift Publishing. Then I added I earn more money from my non fiction than from my fiction. She did not know what to say, so she stood up and walked away. The attitude of the literary author needed readjusting, not my attitude since I made the effort to attend her novel release event. Of course, I did not mention that I owned Tift Publishing. And I did not buy her book. :-) |
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Post by chelsfield on Aug 12, 2017 0:22:56 GMT -8
I suppose if one believes that art combines originality, inspiration, and craft, could computer-generated images still be considered art? I think much exception in the traditional art world is to what is perceived as a lack of craft and skill. But the person I am referring to contends that the decision-making process (what to put where, what color to use etc) is the skill or craft.
I pose these questions not because I have a definite opinion, but because I don't. I take a dim view of the likes of Andy Warhol and Banksy because they are merely clever, not producing any considerable art. To my mind, anyway. Admittedly, I have a rather narrow view of what art and poetry is...
Perhaps this person I refer to was turned away because his work is not particularly good or even clever. We only have his word for the reason.
Nice to meet up with another non-fictionist. We seem very thin on the ground in indy circles. And, remind your friend that the Brontes began by self-publishing. I think literary snobs would be surprised how many famous authors began in that manner...
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Post by garyweston on Aug 12, 2017 5:19:12 GMT -8
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Post by Ria Stone on Aug 12, 2017 10:32:02 GMT -8
I suppose if one believes that art combines originality, inspiration, and craft, could computer-generated images still be considered art? I think much exception in the traditional art world is to what is perceived as a lack of craft and skill. But the person I am referring to contends that the decision-making process (what to put where, what color to use etc) is the skill or craft. I pose these questions not because I have a definite opinion, but because I don't. I take a dim view of the likes of Andy Warhol and Banksy because they are merely clever, not producing any considerable art. To my mind, anyway. Admittedly, I have a rather narrow view of what art and poetry is... Perhaps this person I refer to was turned away because his work is not particularly good or even clever. We only have his word for the reason. Nice to meet up with another non-fictionist. We seem very thin on the ground in indy circles. And, remind your friend that the Brontes began by self-publishing. I think literary snobs would be surprised how many famous authors began in that manner... A simple answer is, art is in the eye of the beholder. But, I often take issue with the "Standard Bearers", those who deem themselves as having "good taste" or something. Art is always changing, electronic art may be a new frontier for some. Why are so many of the artists we deem creative today, not recognized in their lifetime, like Van Gogh? |
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Post by djmills on Aug 12, 2017 12:23:59 GMT -8
Gary, your cover is MOST definitely art! :-) The added text makes it recognizable as a book cover. :-) chelsfield, art is in the eye of the beholder. Some people throw paint on large boards and wait for it to dry, then sell it. They call it art. I call it spilled paint. ;-) I love this image. Done in Photoshop and I think it is art. niraky.deviantart.com/art/Violeta-176652754And there are lots of other demos to creating computer graphic art. Oh, you could check out some books from your library on digital art, like How to draw and paint Science fiction Art by Geoff Taylor, or Digital Sci-fi Art by Michael Burns, or Mechanika by Doug Chiang. All amazing stuff, and done using computers. |
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Post by garyweston on Aug 12, 2017 14:02:06 GMT -8
Thanks for that, D J. Can't move for damn paintings in my place. Got the Mona Lisa staring right back at me at the moment.
I see some amazing stuff on facebook art dreamers. Some done the old fashioned way, some with impressive computer work. I think for me, art means it has been created with effort, technique and passion. How it is created comes secondary to me. I do resent some paint being sloshed on a canvas and because some "lovey" says "it is genius, darlings", it is suddenly worth millions. I do contemplate spending some $$ on some decent software one day. Any suggestions???
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Post by Ted on Aug 12, 2017 17:29:52 GMT -8
GIMP is free. A PhotoShop replacement. They have lots of tutorials. www.gimp.org/ |
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Post by djmills on Aug 12, 2017 21:03:35 GMT -8
You can also watch photoshop demonstrations and do the same thing in GIMP even if the tool is called something different to photoshop.
I use photoshop elements 2.0 (really old) and put into GIMP for adjustments that my old photoshop elements can't do. I also use Blender and DAZ Studio for individual human and other shapes then import or copy & paste into Photoshop or GIMP in new layers to build up the images.
I use another program to do watercolour for my cartoons. I think it was Coral Painter, but not sure. Other computer is off at the moment.
Like my Trackers cover, the characters were created in DAZ, then put into PS. The background is a purchased photo of a palace room, the horses were photos that I extracted and manipulated to get colours, etc. More layers for making the background lighter, and the magic bits. The magic explosion was a photo of fireworks exploding that I changed to blue and turned around the way I needed it to go. I copied each shape for the shadows, filled with black and used transparent percentages to get right shadow look to match the background. All fun and games. :-)
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